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People that know Suzie would be aware of her remarkable journey but for those that don't, Suzie started in the breed in 1990. She owns BISS CH Tasman's Rushing Whitewater, who was ranked #8 in the Country in 2001. Today, she is a professional handler showing some of the most celebrated Siberians in the Country. For those of you that don't know Suzie Willis, you will after this interview .
How many years have you been in the Breed?
Is your husband active in the breed, as well?
Who was your first Siberian and where did you get him or her from?
How did you get involved in Conformation? Did you have a mentor? While I considered myself lucky and have had several mentors when I first started in the breed, my very first mentor was Cheryl Scheall of Tasman Siberians. She took a chance on me and sold me my first conformation dog. Cheryl was always a phone call away for me. When we happen to be at shows together she was always happy to give me hands on advice and help. Also some of her friends, that were close to me, if I saw them at a show they were willing to help me. Say with how I presented a dog. Like lengthening out my stride when I was gaiting them around a ring, grooming tips, things like that. I was lucky. I had a lot of people to help me along the way. What did you learn from Cheryl? I learned a lot of things. I learned what type equipment was needed such as crates, driers, collars, leads and how to groom. How to get premiums for shows, how to fill out entry forms. Proper show dress and most important, how to present a dog in the show ring. How to stack him, show the judge the good points of the dogs.
Do you still use what she taught you today? Who was your first Champion?
My first champion was my obedience dog "Kodo". My first conformation champion was Ch Tasman's Torch Town Boogie "Kargo" which I finished at a year and a half. Kargo was a little heavier looking in the front, which was the style when he was being shown. He had wonderful sidegate, very good front and rear with a very pretty face. He really set the stage because he was so easy to show. I had alot of success with him especially at Specialties. I started doing alot of winning with Kargo and people started to take notice.
I handled all my dogs to there championships.
Which dogs that you have owned or bred are you most proud of their accomplishments in the ring?
Of your own dogs, which single moment was the most memorable? And why? That must have been very exciting. Again, I purchased him from Cheryl. He is a gray and white dog, 23” tall, brown eyes. I went to Cheryl not expecting to get him. At the time there was another couple interested in him and I was looking at another litter and it was Kayak’s cousin, Kanoe. I really liked this gray dog but I didn’t think I was going to get him. Unbeknownst to me, my husband went in and talked to Cheryl privately and told her that he would buy two that day. He wanted both Kanoe and Kayak. It just ended up working out that day that I got Kayak. The other couple got a black and white brother. We started confirmation classes at 6 months old with both Kanoe and Kayak. Kayak always did what I asked for him to do. He was very smooth in the ring. Easy to show. He would walk into the ring like he was a winner. But I can honestly say, I did have problems with him in the beginning. He was 23” and some judges weren’t willing to look at a 23” dog. They were taught or mentored by people who preferred a smaller Siberian. But I did finish Kayak at a year and a half old, which is pretty fast. He’s got a presence. He always did. Once I decided to really campaign him hard. I made the decision to hire a handler, Mike Szabo because at the time I could not be out there every weekend. He ended up being #8 in the Breed. So that was quite exciting. Are there any breedings in your future? I can't say never, but right now I'd say no. I had to make a decision on whether to become a breeder or a handler and I felt that I personally couldn't do both and do justice to either one. So I decided to be a handler. It would be especially difficult for me. Being a handler, I am gone all the time. I do take in puppies for training which I have done for many people. They go to handling classes with me, they learn how to travel and they learn how to be shown and stacked so they are ready for the show ring. Right now, I can still have new personalities in my life but know that they are going to go home so I am not adding to my numbers. And also my husband asked me to make that decision because it wouldn’t be fair to him if I wasn’t going to be home and to leave him with all the responsibility. So this works for me at this time but again as I said before, I don’t want to say never. I may. Who knows how long I’ll be a handler. Today, I think I am going to be a handler forever. But bodies do where out. You just never know. Time will tell. You became a handler in 2001 full time. How did you make the decision to become a handler? I like showing dogs so instead of adding to my own dog population once they finished I could show other peoples dogs and once finished send them back home and still have the thrill of showing dogs. You left your job of 25 years to become a full time handler. After making that decision how hard was it? It wasn't hard at all actually the company made that decision for me. I had been thinking about quiting when my department was told that we were being relocated to another state. That wasn't a option for me so I took them up on a very nice severence package and walked out the door. What is your typical week like? Since I'm gone every weekend, it's pretty much the same. When I get home I clean my RV, do laundry, repack the RV with cloths, dog food & water etc., work and condition dogs that I'm currently showing. Of course there's the usual housework, cleaning of kennels the bathing of house dogs, returning emails and phone calls. I also help teach a conformation class for my kennel club and attend meetings for same. What advise would you give someone that wants to become a professional handler? I would say do alot of soul searching. Make sure that this is really what you want to do with your life. Don't get me wrong I love what I do but it's also a very hard and demanding life. How has becoming a Handler affected you and your husband's life? Does he travel with you? How do you balance everything? It has impacted us alot. He works nights and I'm gone every weekend. So that doesn't leave alot of us time but somehow it all works out. Lloyd doesn't get to go with me much. When he can it's usually specialties when they are close and always the nationals. It's hard to balance everything and sometimes you don't but somehow it works out in the end.
How prevalent is politics in the breed? Does the best Siberian win most of the time? What does it take to win at a sport that is so competitive?
Good dogs, good skills and a competitive nature.
What is the single most important thing that an exhibitor can do to make their dog look better in the ring?
You are known for showing Siberians. Do you show other breeds?
Yes. I don’t show Toys. I don’t have a lot of experience with them. I have shown Mastiffs, Bull Mastiffs, Great Danes, Akitas, Rotties, Golden Retreivers, Basjeni and more. I am comfortable with most breeds.
Today you are currently campaigning CH Karnovanda's Rupert Bear for Ms. Russell and doing very well with him. How did that come about?
Right now, tonight, I will be campaigning Rupert next year. (laughter) Rupert has always been a challenge for me. He’s not my easy dog. Niklas was an easy dog. Niklas spoiled me from start to finish. With Rupbert, when I got him he finished within 9 to 10 shows as a puppy. Then he went and grew up. So when I got him to become that special. He was basically untrained. He didn’t get trained because he finished so quickly and so young. When I got him, he was a challenge. He makes me work. It’s not a piece a cake. I can’t glide through this. I do really have to apply myself. He’s a fun dog. We’ve come a long way from the day I first started him as a special and I think he is getting better. He has wonderful side gait. He has solid front and solid rear. He walks in the ring wanting to do the job today. He’s got the drive, modivation and everything that is needed for the specials ring. That’s why I am pretty sure that we will have him out next year. He’s like a fine wine. He’s getting better.
If I wanted to hire you today to handle my Siberian, could you? Or are you exclusive to Ms. Russell? Are specials born or made?
I would say they are born. They should have good fronts, good rears, good pigment, proper earset, the proper coat, good side gait, all the stuff we take for granted. But they have to have that attitude. They have to have that drive. That sparkle. Niklas was one of those dogs that would show from 8:00 in the morning to 6:00 at night. He would show all day long in every ring whether it was with the Toys, the Great Danes or with the Siberians. He wanted to be a show dog. He demanded attention. He couldn’t get enough of it. Every weekend he knew that it was his time. He knew what his job was and he wanted to do it. That is not something that I could get him to do. You can’t make a dog do it. So I think specials are born. How did you feel when you won your first Best In Show? It was under Keke Kahn with CH Karnovanda’s Niklas Wolf. It was a thrill of a lifetime. While I was considered a handler because I was being paid to show others peoples dogs. I still felt that I was very new to the game which I am. But I had this dog, Niklas which I thought was the complete package. A phenominal dog. I felt he was very deserving of a BIS. I would hear about this or that Siberian going BIS somewhere and I just couldn't understand why not Niklas. Every weekend I would go in there and I would see this dog win and hear about that dog winning. I took that very hard because I felt confident in this dog’s abilities. I could not understand why this dog was not being considered for Best in Show when I made it that far. I took it very hard. I had a lot of problems with that. I started second guessing myself, “Should I be showing this dog? Would this dog already have had multiple Best in Shows if it weren’t for me?” Being new, being a person the Judges didn’t know and didn’t recognize me. But I decided that, “I can do this”. Hopefully, I am not holding this dog back. When I got the first Best in Show on him, it was “WOW”! I cried. I was excited. I was in awe. I couldn’t believe later that “I” had gotten this dog a Best In Show. He’s a phonominal dog. If I could have trained him to go around the ring on his own. He would have done it on his own. I just happened to be at the end of the lead (lots of laughter). When you campaign a dog as you did with Niklas how hard is it to let go when the campaign is over?
It’s very hard. I only had Niklas out for a year in a half. I felt he should have had more time here in the United States. However, Judy had other plans for me. In my case, my specials live with me. They never go home. They are with me all the time. They are a part of my dogs life here and they are a part of me. We spend so much time intense time together you feel as if they are one of yours. When Niklas left me, it was very hard for me. It was like cutting off my right arm and it wouldn‘t have hurt any worse than it was by letting that dog go. To this day, I still think about that dog. I still love that dog and I always will. I understand part of it was that he was such a good dog and I had the privildge to have that dog. He took me places that I never thought I would never go. Like the Best In Shows, the Specialties, Westminster and so much more. I let that dog go. But I let him go to bigger and better things. So that makes me feel good. But I still miss him to this day. Today, there are three Karnavonda dogs in the Top 10. Are you competitive with them? CH Karnovanda's North by Northwest is out in Washington so we do not see him often. I have run into, on occasion, CH Karnovanda’s Paddington Bear who is being shown by Sam Mammano. We do not try to go head to head with each other. But if we do, we show our dogs to the best of our abilities. We do not lay down for one and another. We are too competitive. Is there a difference in showing in the Group Ring vs. the Breed Ring and the importance of it? To me there is. From the classes to the breed to the group, each level you compete in you are raising the standard. The cream is rising to the top with each level. In the Breed Ring you are going against those of the same breed. Once you get into the Group Ring more is expected of you. The best of each breed is now competing. At that point, the best dogs on that day is what you are going up against. The stress factor is greater once you get in the group. You are competing with a lot of phenomenal animals. What’s more important for you as a handler, to get a Best In Show or a National Specialty win? For me, I would have to say a National win because Siberians are mainly what I show. It would be very nice for me and the breed I represent to win a National. For the handler that is an All Breed handler that is not specialized in one breed, I would say that a Best In Show. For me, I would like to win a National because it is in front of my peers. It is my breed that I currently own. At least to win it once. (laughter) Have you ever thought of becoming a Judge?
No, I have never considered becoming a judge for a couple of reasons. From my point of view judging seems like a thankless one. We've all run into those judges who are good and understand simple form and function while there are other judges that you wonder how on earth they ever got their judges license. It seems that no matter what a judge does on any particular day it is virtually impossible to please everyone. The exhibitor who won thinks the judge did a wonderful job while the exhibitor who lost thinks the judge did an awful job. I don't think that I would be able to deal with that well.
However, I do give lots of credit to those people who have the desire to become judges and to those who are judges. The sport of dogs need the judges, exhibitors and the breeders for this all to work.
But the main reason I have for not becoming a judge is pretty simple. It's because I love the exhibiting part way to much to consider doing anything else.
Is there any accomplishments you have yet to achieve in the breed? And last but not least, what's up next for you?
Well, I don't really know. I'll just have to let you know when I get there.
HANDLER AND OWNER OF MULTIPLE BEST IN SHOW, BEST IN SPECIALTY AND GROUP PLACING SIBERIANS
My first Siberian
Kodo Nisha Baby Roo
CH Tasman's Torch Town Boogie
CH Tasman's Rushing Whitewater
CH Karnovanda's Niklas Wolf
CH Karnovanda's Niklas Wolf
Hometown: Troy, Ohio
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CH Karnovanda's Niklas Wolf
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CH Karnovanda's Niklas Wolf
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